本帖最后由 moni 于 2013/8/2 12:07 編輯 www.med126.com臨床上經(jīng)常遇到這樣的人,他們判斷一個(gè)醫(yī)生水平的高低,常常依據(jù)處方藥味的多少,認(rèn)為一張?zhí)幏剿幬镌缴,則醫(yī)生處方越自信,醫(yī)術(shù)越高,療效肯定越好。事實(shí)上并非如此,判斷一個(gè)處方的好壞,并非單純以藥物的數(shù)量來(lái)定,而當(dāng)看處方思路是否符合病機(jī)。有些大夫看不透病機(jī),不敢開(kāi)藥,隨便弄個(gè)三五味藥,不求用功但求無(wú)過(guò),這能解決問(wèn)題嗎?
疾病的治療目的是折其病勢(shì),扭轉(zhuǎn)病機(jī),這是目的,用藥不是為了將病治療到什么程度,而關(guān)鍵是看病勢(shì)是否調(diào)頭,病勢(shì)扭轉(zhuǎn)了,身體自身就會(huì)得到了修復(fù),如果病勢(shì)得不到扭轉(zhuǎn),用藥只是對(duì)癥處理,疾病永遠(yuǎn)沒(méi)有治愈的一天,用藥也就是追著疾病跑。
扭轉(zhuǎn)病機(jī)就好似一艘船調(diào)頭,也好似將一根木頭調(diào)頭一樣,調(diào)頭需要外力的幫助,如果我們從木頭的一端用力,力量強(qiáng)大,很輕松就將木頭調(diào)頭了(如圖一)。
但這是有前提的,木頭能夠承受強(qiáng)大的外力,如果木頭本身已經(jīng)不結(jié)實(shí)了,只從一個(gè)角度用力,就很容易出現(xiàn)從中折斷(如圖二)。這時(shí)需要從兩端著力,相對(duì)用力,這樣才能將木頭調(diào)頭,而保證不折斷。臨床上寒熱搭配,升降同施,攻補(bǔ)兼顧,就是如此(如圖三)。
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但如果木頭久經(jīng)風(fēng)雨,已經(jīng)腐爛,碰一碰都會(huì)掉下一塊來(lái),你只從一端用力,絕對(duì)不行。從兩端用力,也會(huì)非常勉強(qiáng),這是就需要從多個(gè)地方用力,才能保證木頭調(diào)頭的同時(shí),不會(huì)被折斷(如圖四)。
臨床上很多慢性病,病史追溯一下,常常是七八上十年,有的是二三十年,病機(jī)不再是單純腎陽(yáng)虛,也不再單純是心血虛……常常五臟受累,如果單從一個(gè)角度入手,只用兩三味藥,大劑量使用,身體稍強(qiáng)的人可能受得住,但更多的時(shí)候,容易出現(xiàn)身體不適,很多醫(yī)家認(rèn)為是排病反應(yīng),其實(shí)是身體受到損害的表現(xiàn)(當(dāng)然也有一些是排病反應(yīng))。用藥時(shí)如果五臟兼顧,虛實(shí)各有照應(yīng),則這些慢性病就會(huì)穩(wěn)步好轉(zhuǎn),慢慢扭轉(zhuǎn)病機(jī),而不會(huì)出現(xiàn)病沒(méi)治好,命卻沒(méi)了的狀況。
那么,是不是用藥越多越好呢,這是絕對(duì)錯(cuò)誤的,用藥太多,相互之間牽涉、制約,窩工不干活,效果也不好。
所以遣方用藥,不要刻意追求處方藥味的多寡,切中病機(jī),照顧五臟,就可以了。-----------
本帖最后由 竹根 于 2013/8/2 12:15 編輯 payment-defi.com/job/不要為自己的大處方辯解什么。像黃元御《四圣》的處方都是非常精簡(jiǎn)的。再者,經(jīng)方的組方是最能說(shuō)明問(wèn)題的。請(qǐng)巡查不要發(fā)這些內(nèi)容來(lái)誤導(dǎo)人了。沒(méi)有什么意義。
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本帖最后由 灶心土 于 2013/8/2 12:55 編輯 payment-defi.com/zhuyuan/孰是孰非,沒(méi)有自己實(shí)踐一下是無(wú)法體會(huì)的。
-----------大處方好象就施今墨吧
施今墨遣方用藥自成一格,其處方配伍精當(dāng),藥品繁多,前后搭配無(wú)不相合,博得了“雍容華貴”的美譽(yù)。他擅用大方,藥品的搭配極有法度,與一般醫(yī)生之隨意堆砌藥物,斷不可同日而語(yǔ)。中醫(yī)遣方用藥,每藥的使用,都必須與其他藥物相互為用,七情和合。因此,藥味越多,就越容易出現(xiàn)不和、不當(dāng)?shù)拇钆,影響全方的整體性和治療效果。
然而施老用藥,常見(jiàn)二、三十味之多,但即使藥味再多,也配合得體,法度嚴(yán)謹(jǐn),毫無(wú)繁瑣冗贅之感,反倒彰顯其華貴大方,非常人能及之氣度,其處方之華美常令中醫(yī)藥界的行家矢口贊嘆。
后人看不懂他的路數(shù),也學(xué)不來(lái)。
在學(xué)術(shù)上,他也有獨(dú)到的見(jiàn)解,他認(rèn)為氣血為人身的物質(zhì)基礎(chǔ),實(shí)屬重要,因此,提出了“以陰陽(yáng)為總綱,表、里、虛、實(shí)、寒、熱、氣、血為八綱”的理論
愚猜測(cè):其處方大的原因在于,兼顧了病人氣血在各臟腑的偏衰。而病人變了,處方也變了,硬套是套不了的。沒(méi)弄明白是什么回事,所以才有:
“然而施老用藥,常見(jiàn)二、三十味之多,但即使藥味再多,也配合得體,法度嚴(yán)謹(jǐn)”的說(shuō)法。
-----------有道理,可以借鑒。
-----------嗯,好像有些道理。
-----------中醫(yī)學(xué)好了,身體健康了,
不管是搬磚還是搬木頭,你都覺(jué)得很輕松嘛
-----------說(shuō)來(lái)說(shuō)去主要還是要根據(jù)病者的脈象證候下藥處方
-----------說(shuō)的好
-----------藥多者通常醫(yī)術(shù)一般,辯證不清就只好撒攔河網(wǎng)。